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> Meeting: UFO CONTACT CENTER INTERNATIONAL GROUP MEETING, 1988
> Speaker: Martin Cannon
> Subject: UFOs and Mind Control

[THIS IS A TRANSCRIPT OF TAPED TALK GIVEN BY MARTIN CANNON VIA TELEPHONE
TO THE UFO CONTACT CENTER INTERNATIONAL GROUP MEETING IN 1988. BECAUSE IT
IS A TRANSCRIPTION, SOME OF THE NAMES MAY BE INCORRECTLY SPELLED, BUT THE
CONTENT OF THE INFORMATION RELAYED REMAINS 100% ACCURATE.]

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All I can say is that I have been, for over a year now, pursuing a specific
theory of UFO abductions which has royally ticked off everybody that I've
come in contact with -- believer and skeptic alike.

This is a theory that, I think, designed to make me hate it. I'm primarily
interested in the government's involvement in the UFO phenomena.

Specifically, it seems to me, and I might as well lay out all my cards on
the table at once, it seems to me the abduction phenomenon might just
be a ploy, that the aliens are a paper-mache mask, as I sometimes put it,
for something else that's really going on.

All theories of UFO abductions that I've ever come across (excepting the
entirely skeptical ones put out by people like Philip Klass), they all
include some aspect of the concept of mind control. Now it seems to me
that if people's minds are being controlled, and I think that this
technology is in existence, then we have to ask the question: can we
trust the participant's reports of what they are seeing, in terms of
perhaps even the UFO's that they are seeing, but certainly the nature of
the abduction experience itself?

Do we even have to assume that the little gray aliens exist simply because
people tell us that they do, even if they believe that they exist?

Drawing from a very old example out of hypnotism, and Aileen being
herself a hypnotherapist, can perhaps tell you more about this -- it was
a very common practice, going back many, many decades, to see if somebody
was under some hypnotism, they would introduce them -- they would take the
subject, hypnotize them, and say that there was a small, black dog in the
room, and he's coming up, and would you pet him.

And the subject will often actually see the dog just as thoroughly, just
as concretely, as they would see any normal dog that you might get out
of the animal shelter.

Now if the human brain can be tricked to that extent, then is it not
possible that the ET's that people are seeing are of an exactly like
substance to that dog?

I think it is. I have done a great deal of research into the subject of
the government's involvement in mind control operations. They like people
to believe that that was all something that they were doing back in the
50's and the 60's, and it was all to catch up with the Russians who had
this huge lead in the field, but they stopped doing it around 1963 and
they never really found anything -- it's all a lie!

I mean, basically, I've just come to the conclusion where I can say that
right now. These programs went very, very far. We got there first. We
were far ahead of the Russians. I even can give you a memo where Allen
Dulles admitted that to the Warren Commission, of all places.

It went back to World War II, possibly to the 30's, in fact I've just
recently came across some information that occult groups have been doing
experimentations with what they call electronic mind control, going all
the way back to the 19th century. In fact there isn't a single technology
of mind control that doesn't go back to that time.

And so, one of the problems, well, I should say that in researching this
I have not only looked up, read every book available on this subject,
some of which are EXTREMELY hard to find. I mean, I'm sorry to sound too
paranoid but I'm really beginning to get the idea that somebody has been
going around to the libraries and hussling them off the shelves, because
I keep on finding, you know, there are certain books that I keep on
looking for, and I find that they are not checked out, and they are not
only the library shelves either! And I'm wondering what's happened to
them.

But I think I've now amassed quite a library on the subject, and
I've also gone to Washington, D.C. and I saw some 20,000 documents, these
are de-classified CIA / Defense Department documents, as well as many
interviews with scientists working on these programs back in the 50's and
60's, and these were all compiled by John Marks, for his book _The Search
for the Manchurian Candidate_.

I would suggest that all of you people read that book, but you must
understand that that book is incredibly conservative, and that the whole
subject goes far, far beyond that. I don't know why John Marks wrote it
the way he did. Certainly, there was much more information in his files
than he allowed to come out in his book.

Another good book which I'm sorry to say is very, very difficult to get
a hold of, and probably the best book on the subject, is called _Operation
Mind Control_, and that's by Walter Bowart. But even then, after you've
gone to that literature, you know, you have to search through a great
deal of periodicals and scientific papers and so forth, and also conduct
a great many interviews.

I've interviewed people who claim to have been under mind control,
specifically in Vietnam. And what they describe is very, very similar to
what the abductee's are describing in many respects. Not only that, I've
spoken to abductees. And this is a subject on which I feel a certain
amount of hesitancy in describing and talking about.

One abductee, I called her Veronica in an article I wrote in UFO Magazine
(it's a long and extremely complicated and fascinating case), under
hypnosis, and I did not hypnotize her, in fact she is the one who wanted
the hypnosis and it was administered by a professional hypnotist. In the
4th hypnotic session she described one of her abductions, which as she
dug deeper turned out not to have taken place at all in any kind of
Unidentified Flying Object, but in fact took place in a house outside
the Los Angeles area.

And of course, we kept zeroing in on the house and its location, and so on
and so forth.

Now, I must state directly here that there is some possibility, of course,
whenever there is a hypnotized subject -- it is often stated wants to
please the hypnotist, therefore might confabulate details that would fit
that hypnotists' particular thesis. I must say that Veronica came up with
the CIA thesis long before I ever met her. She was saying that that was
just one possibility among others.

It also seems to be a nagging possibility that other abductees that I have
read about and talked to have come up with, although they didn't explore
it. There is something about the idea of being in contact with alien
beings that is extremely attractive to them, and they don't want to give
it up very easily.

Anyway, to go back to the hypnotic session -- she had talked about --
I won't give you the details of this kind of terrifying session that she
underwent in this man's house -- but, after the session, I found out
later she was told under some sort of hypnosis, even though the
hypnotist had tried to get her out of it, and she said that she was no
longer in trance, but apparently she still was. But I said, "Well, okay,
let's drive there."

And we did. And I got a location, we found the location, and she suddenly
got very scared and we had to turn back. Well, I later did a little bit
of detective work and I found out who lived there. I won't give the name,
because there is obviously a certain possibility of lible involved, but
I found out that the man who lived in that house was a scientist who
worked on the CIA's mind control programs. These programs had projects
like ARTICHOKE, BLUEBIRD, MK-ULTRA.

Not only that, while on the way there, Veronica described the interior of
this house, including one specific unusual detail that almost nobody has
in his living room, and I later found out from somebody who had been in
that house, that she described it accurately. Unfortunately, Veronica now
says that she